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Old 10-13-2004, 05:21 PM
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Uski taqdeer men mahkoomiyomazloomi hai
Qaum jo kar na saki apni khudi se insaaf

Ai tair-e-lahooti us rizq se maut acchi
Jis rizq se aati ho parwaz men kotahi.

Masood bhai meri samajh men ye baat nahin aayi ki aap kahna kiya chahte hain ...
Musharraf Sahab men bahut saree khoobiyan hain ...lekin jis tarah
Gaya shaitan mara ek sajde ke na karne se
hazaron sal sajde men jo sar mara to kiya mara .
isee tarah islam dushmanon ka sath de kar jo gunah Musharraf ne kiya hai uska koi madawa nahin hosakta ....
aur jahan tak Hindostan ka sawal hai ki hindostan ki hukoomat agar chahe bhi to us tarah america ka sath nahin desakti jis tanashahi se musharraf derahe hain ...
aur raha Hindostan ki chalon ka sawal to pakistan ko jab woh 50 salon men kuch nuqsan nahin pahuncha paya to ab kiya pahunchayega ...
aur nuqsan pahunchane ke liye Musharraf aur unke aaqa Bush hi kafi hain kisee doosre ki kiya zaroorat hai.
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Old 10-14-2004, 10:36 AM
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Uski taqdeer men mahkoomiyomazloomi hai
Qaum jo kar na saki apni khudi se insaaf

Ai tair-e-lahooti us rizq se maut acchi
Jis rizq se aati ho parwaz men kotahi.

Masood bhai meri samajh men ye baat nahin aayi ki aap kahna kiya chahte hain ...
Musharraf Sahab men bahut saree khoobiyan hain ...lekin jis tarah
Gaya shaitan mara ek sajde ke na karne se
hazaron sal sajde men jo sar mara to kiya mara .
isee tarah islam dushmanon ka sath de kar jo gunah Musharraf ne kiya hai uska koi madawa nahin hosakta ....
aur jahan tak Hindostan ka sawal hai ki hindostan ki hukoomat agar chahe bhi to us tarah america ka sath nahin desakti jis tanashahi se musharraf derahe hain ...
aur raha Hindostan ki chalon ka sawal to pakistan ko jab woh 50 salon men kuch nuqsan nahin pahuncha paya to ab kiya pahunchayega ...
aur nuqsan pahunchane ke liye Musharraf aur unke aaqa Bush hi kafi hain kisee doosre ki kiya zaroorat hai.
Mohtaram Xtwo sahib!
Sab sey pehley to is baat ki wazahat kar doon keh main na hi Musharraf ka hamaeeti
hoon aur na hi Nawaz Shareef, Benazir, Qazi ya kisi doosrey teesrey ka. Merey
nazdeek in mein koi bhi woh qaid nahin jis ki muslim qom ko zaroorat hai. Albata
Musharraf mein leadership ki salahiyyat baqi sab sey ziyada hai - no doubt about
that.
Main siraf us tanqeed ka mukhalif hoon jis mein tameer ka pehloo na ho. Aur aaj kal hum khaas tar hakoomat par tanqeed karna apna farz-e-awwlein samjhtey hain chahey humein khud musalmaan hona ka haqdaar na ho.
Baat ho rahi hai Islam ki. Islami siyasi tareekh key awwraaq uthaa kar dekh lein, Khilafat khatam honey key baad sey lekar aaj tak aik common talakh haqeeqat nazar aati hai keh har daur mein muslim hukmurano ney apney mufaad ki hifaazat ki hai. Jo hukamat mein nahin hain woh hakoomat hasil karney ki lalach mein lagey rahey hain, aur is silsiley mein ghair musalmo sey soda baazi kartey rahey hain - aaj ka dor koi neya nahin.
Maazi mein musalmaan offensive they woh duniya ko fatah karna chahtey they aur bohat hadd tak kaamyab they. Aaj kal musalmaan deffens par hain aur doosrey taqatein offens par hain. 11 september key baad humara defending hona aur zaroori ho geya hai warna na kisi mulk ki salmiyyat baqi rahey gi aur na hi hum Islam ki salmiyyat ko barqrar rakh saktey hain. Yeh waqt josh mein aaney ka nahin balkey hosh sey kaam leney ka hai.
Hum mehz josh aur jazbey par duniya ka muqabla nahin kar saktey. Humarey 44-45 muslim mumalik mein koi aik aisa mulk nahin jo doosrey mulk ki maddad karney ko tayyar hai. Humarey ander kisi tor par science ki taleem nahin jo humein kaamyab kar sakey. Aaj kal kaamyabi siraf science par foqiyyat hasil karney sey hai.
Madresson mein siwaey josh dilaney key aur kya seekhaya jata hai? Merey bhai hum log bohat peechhey rah gei hain. Humein is waqt siraf apni baqa key aur kuchh nahin soojh raha. Musharraf ney amerika ka saath dey kar ghalat kiya hai - agree. Magar aik leader jiskey mulk par qayamat tootney wali ho, jis key aik inkaar sey bohat badi tabahi ka andesha ho woh leader kya karta?? Aap btaaein aap is soorat mein kya kartey? mulk ko tabah karwaa detey????????
Jahan tak ta'alluq hai Hindostan ka Pakistan ko nuqsaan pohnchaney ka to merey bhai aap tareekh ko bohat jald bhool gey hain. '48 ki jang ka nuqsaan, '65 ki jang ka nuqsaan (jissey hum jeeti hui jang kehtey hain), Saqoot-e-Dhaka, '98 mein Kargil ka nuqsaan - Woh kaun sa nuqsaan hai jo Hindostan humein nahin pohnchaa sakta.......

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Old 10-14-2004, 11:16 PM
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sab se pahle main yebata doon ki main bhi kisee siyasee party ko pasand nahin karta ...jahan tak mera lagao hai wo jamate islami se hai wo bhi us jamat se jise kabhi maulana maudodi ne islam ki sarbulandee ke liyeqayem kiya tha ...aaj uski soorat hi kuch aur nazar aati hai

Main aapki in baton ki poori tarah taeed karta hoon ki aaj humen zaroorat hosh ki hai ,josh ki nahin ....humen tayyaree ke liye waqfa chahiye ...aur bina sceince per fauqiyat ke hum kuch bhi nahin kar sakte....
aapki baat bilkul sahi hai ki aaj humara sheeraza bikhra hua hai aur use sametne ke liye humen waqt ki darkar hai..
lekin jo kaam Musharraf sahab ne kiya kiya usse wo tayyaree kawaqfa humen hasil ho jayega ....
humaree Zameen per america ke fauji ghoom rahe hain aurshikar bhi kar rahe hain ...roz koi na koi khabar dekhne ko mil jati hai ki falan jagah se itne admi pakde gaye aur america men leja kar poochtaach hogi ....
9/11 ke baad pakistan ke hawai addon per jo security system lage hain unka direct control america ke hath men hai .....
duniyakesirf 12 mulkon men wo securty system hai aur ye 12 mulk wohi hain jinper america ek tarah se hukoomat karta hai ....
humaree policies badal gayin ....humaree schoolon ki kitabob men pher badal horahe hain ....yahin islam section ke kai threadisbaat ke gawah hain ...
han ischiz seek fayeda ye hua ki pakistan ko qarz khoob mil raha hai ...
aur ye qarz kiya rang layega ye hum aur aap dekh rahe hain ..
aur uske baad pakistan ki siyasi ,muashi sooratehal ?
kiyaaapko lagta hai ki musharraf sahab ne kuch sudhardee hai ....khair aam admi ko to kuch nahin lagta.
Han ek chiz hai hindostan setalluqat kuch sudhrehain ....
aur aapne jin jangon ka zikr kiya usmen main manta hoon ki sarasar ghalti hindostan ki thi ....lekin iske zimmedar hum khud the ...
humaree aapni kotahiyon ki wajah se 1971 ka wo nakhushgawar waqeya hua ..aur uske liye hum sirf hindostan ko zimmedar nahin thahra sakte ....usne sirf mauqe se fayeda uthaya ....aur aaj ke daur men jo mauqe sefayeda uthana nahin janta use bewaqoof kahte hain ...
aur kargil ka to zikr hi na karen ....aur hairat to is baat ki hai ki ek aam pakistani ke dimagh men ye baat daleegayi hai ki ye saree jangen pak ne jitee thin aur use fakhr karna chahiye in jangon per

masood bhai mujhe Musharraf sahab se koi khalish nahin un ke kuch kaam aisehain jisne unki saree khoobiyon per parda daal diya hau jo aap leadership ki quality ki baat karte hai to usmen mujhe shak hai ....kiyaapne mulk ki apnehathiyaron ki ,apne awam ki dor kiseeaur ke hathon men dekar aap kis qism ki tayyaree chahte hain ...?
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....aur aaj ke daur men jo mauqe sefayeda uthana nahin janta use bewaqoof kahte hain ...
....humari musalmano ki yehi to aik burai hai keh hum "mauqey sey faidah" hi uthaatey hai aur woh bi siraf apney zaati mufaad key liye. Koi aisa nahin to sari qom key liye sochey. Mujhey bhi Musharraf sey aisey bohat sey ikhtilaf hain, jinki binaa par woh aaghaz jo unho ney kiya tha woh promise hal nahin ho saka. Shayid 11 september ka waqiya na hota to halaat kuchh aur hotey.
Jahan tak ta'alluq Quran ki suraton ka school key nisaab mein honey ya na honey ka hai to aap ko shayid meri baat na-gwaar guzrey. Magar meri zaati soch key mutabiq Quraan ki taleem aur tarbiyyat Masjid mein honi chahiye school mein nahin. Qaari jo tafseer Quraan ki pesh kar sakta hai woh aik ustaad (jo mehz kitaab mein likhi hui baat btaa sakta hai) nahin kar sakta. Is liye merey nazdeek taleemi nizaam yun hona chahiye keh Masjid aur School ko mil kar kaam karna chahiye keh Quran ki taleem aur tarbiyyat students ko Masajid mein milni chahiye jab keh baqi taleem jismein DEENIYAAT (islam ki history waghera) school key nisaab ka hissah honi chahiye. Hum ney school ki kitabon mein suratein likh dali hain jin sey beadbi bhi bharti hai aur amal na honey key brabar hai. Ustaad jo doosrey bohat sey mazameen parhatey hain woh Quran ki sahee taleem nahin dey saktey. Is liye masjid ko aik bohat bada kirdaar ada karna chahiye.
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mey apni raye ka izhar kerna chahti hun, koi bhi leader ayya pakistan mey yeh Allah gawa hai key un ki niat mey kya thaa but mey yeh samajhti hun key president pervaiz musharraf aik achay leader hai unhhon ney gis tarhan bhi pakistan ko bachaya yeh aik aam insan nahi samajh sakta humaray haan bass criticise kerna atta hai ager har koi apnay ko us jaga per rakh ker sochay jahan puri mulk ki zimaydari aik kangey per hai, aur hum yeh kyun nahi samajhtey key hamaray molk third world countries mey atta hai aur ju hamley hamaraye hamsaeye momalik mey huey super power sey woh hum per bhi ho saktey theey
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Mein Sirf Aik Baat Kahoon Ga Kah Pakistan Ko Agar Quaid E Azam Ke Baad Koi Leader Mila Hai Tu Wo Pervees Mushrraf Hai. Mein Kabi Kabi Sochta Hoon Kah Pervees Mushrraf Ke Baad Pakistan Kaisa Ho Ga Tu Meri Roh Kaanp Uthi Hai.kisi Mazhbi Ya Siasee Jamaat Mein Qiadit Ke Silahat Nahi Hai.mushrraf Sacha Sipahee Aur Sacha Pakistani Hai, Allah Uss Ke Lambi Ummer Karay. Dashmano Ke Nazar E Bad Se Bachay.aameen
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Asslama O Alaikum

No Doubt Musharaf is a good Leader .
But Totally Acting Upon the America,s Wishes is not good .

1) Pakistan Government Uses the Word "Deshat Gard" for Khud Kash Hamla Awars Persons Because America first use iT .

2) In Pakistan , Wana is one of the major Issue that is caused due America,s Wishes . Gov Says that In Wana Only Matter of Registration of Non Pakistani,s . But In Real We know that many Muslims Pathtan that Related to Afghanistan , NWFP are shaheed in Wana War . Wana Operation is totally Applied on Muslims Pathan , In the Matter of Registration as Fronthand.

3) It,s Clear that Amerca,s is the most Powerful Country of the World .
But It,s not means this We bend our Head And Say "Yes Sir"

If We Look Upon Our History Muslims Warriours Always Win with Small Army having limited Weapons .
Sultan Salahuddin Ayubee Defeat Enemy of 10 Lack Equipped with Latest Weapons in that time ( 12th Century ) .
If Muslims Truly Trust on their God & Prophet PBUH then One America Or 10 America,s Cannot Defeat Muslims .

But So Sad We Beleive On America,s Power But Not On Eman Power .
In 1965 , everyone knows that 500 Tanks of India Attacked on Pakistan Border In Line , Pakistan,s Officers have no Solution of this Problem But Pakistani Soldiers Tight bomb with his Chest And Laid down under the Way , Tanks run over thinking they are dead but Crashed In a big blow .

Pray From Allah For Muslims Unity , And Solve the Muslim World Problems By Beleiving On Eman Power Not On America Power .

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mein ne app sub loogu ke baate ghoor se parhe hai aur mujhe bohut khushi hai ke hamaree noojawaan nasal apne mulk ke haalat per nazar rakhee howe hai abb baat aate hai ke Musharaf behasiyad kesse leader hai tu mein yeh kahoon ge ke Musharaf aik achaa leader hai aaj kal harame mulk ke joo halaat hai aur dunyaa mein jo hamaraa image hai"dehshakghard" aesse mein Musharaf sahaib hi hai jo ain haalat ko sambhale howe hai .freinds mein app loogu se aik baat kahoon ge jessa ke hum loog kehte hai ke hamara sub se baraa dusman "America" hai per mein app ko bata doon ke
sub mulku ke apne mafaad hoote hai aun jahan apna mafaad nazar aaye gaa woh aun mulkoo apne good book mein shmil kar leete hai per mein yeh kehte hoon ke hum he woh wahid koom hai joo apna mafaad nahii dheekhte mein yahan app loogu koo "arab countries" ke misaal doon gee app ne aunee kabhi kashimir ke naam per kabhi baat karte sunaa hai kiya yeh loog hamare leaders ke tasweere apne deewaru per laagate hai "jesse hum loog sadaam hussain " ke aaur yasir arafaat ke lagatee hai kiya woh muslim nahii hai kiya hum hi hai lakin aunee apne milk ka mafaad azeez hai woh naam nehaad jehaad ke naam per apne mulk kaa naam kharaab nahii kartee .abb ye hhum loogu ke baat hia ke hum loog apne mulk ko aus ke mafadaat ko azzez janee aur apne leaders ke istilah karee kioun ke woh bhi hum mein se hi hain
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Assalam-0-Alakum Masood bhai
mein Massod bhai ki raai ki saath mutafik hoon k Musharaaf is a Good leader aur unhi ne jub pakistan per bohut muskil waqt thaa unho ne pakistan ko bachaayaa agar woh aisa nahin kertee tu America ne ji hamare saath kerna thaa us ki misaal aap kee saamne Iraq hai.
Asal baat yeh hai k hum sirf aik doosre per ilzaam lagate hain aur buss aur jo sahi decisssion leta hai us per tankeed kerna apna farz.
Ajj jin haalaat se paksitan guzar raha hai woh hamare democratic politician ke peda kerda hain aur President Musharaf aik bilkul saaf aur khare insaan hain
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