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  1. Baber30

    Baber30 New Member

    Quran ma likha ha Nabi SAW bashir ha
    aik aur jagha likha ha
    Allah Fermatay ha Hum ne Nabi SAW unhe ke khandan unhe ke qbelo aur unhe ke Nafz se nabi SAW ko behja
    Nafza ka matlab aur bashir ka matlab dictnary open kero dekho tu us ma milay ga Insaan
    aur dosra Saboot kiya tum log Hazrat Mohammad SAW ke Waldeain ko bhol gai?
    Hazrat Abdullah A.S and maa ka name hazrat B B Amna R.A
    aik aur saboot Farestay Noor se banay ha aur yad rahay Allah ka noor alag aur Farstay ka Noor alag ha wo kesay batata hu
    Allah ko kisi na nahi Dekha na he hazrat Mossa A.S ne aur na Hazrat Mohammad SAW ne meraj walay din q ke Allah ke Noor ko hum ya Ambiyan is dunya ke ankhon se nahi dekh saktey Inshallah jo Momen log Jannat ma hongay Allah un ko itney power dangay ke wo Allah ko dekh sakay Allah mujhe aur hum sub ko Apney Deddar karain Ameen
    ab batata hu farstay ka alag noor ha wo kesay q kay Hazrat Jibrael A.S wahi le ker saray Ambiyan ke pass ai Hazrat Mohammad SAW ne Hazrat Jibrael A.S ko apni asal shakal ma 2 dafa dekha pehley bar jab sab se pehlay wahi Ghare Hira ma i tab dosrey bar jab hazrat Jibrael A.S meraj walay din Hazrat Mohamad SAw ke pass ai aur un ko legai Allah ke Madad se
    is say baat kiya sabit hue hazrat Mohammad SAw apney ankho se hazrat Jibarel A.S ko dekha 2 dafa matlab alag noor huwa tabhi tu dekh saktay thay
    aur sab yaad rakhna Qul Huwal La Hu Ahad ka tarjuma
    Allah Aik ha Na he wo kisi ka beta aur na hi us ki koi aulad ha aur Allah ke jesa koi nahi
    ye jo barelvi Nauzubillah Nabi SAw ko Noormin Nooriallah keh datay ha ye bhot bara shirk ha is ka matlab Nauzubillah Allah ke Noor ke tokray se paida huway Summah Nauzubillah is ka matlab Nauzubillah Hazrat Mohammad SAW bhi Allah huway
    aik tissue ke do tokray kero aik hissay ko tissue kaho gaay tu dosray ko kiya kaho gaay lazmi baat ha wo bhi tissue khilaye ga
    Allah ke azab se daro Allah ka koi Shareek nahi Allah aik ha tum barelvi ne tu kalma he change kerdiya sudar jao abhi bhi waqt ha
     
  2. Khalilattari

    Khalilattari New Member

    Aslaaam o Alikum Waremat ul he Wabrakatoho , kisi ko bura mat kaho bura koi Nahi Dar Hakikat Teri Rooh ki Ankh Abi Khuli he Nahi. Jub Hum Sub Insaan, Dosri Makhlooqat, yeh Kinaat Yeh Zamin Yeh Soraj Yeh Chand Satary, Yeh Nizam e Shamsi NAHI they to Kahan they. Yeh Allah Rabul Izat k Zahn e Kul main they. Allah Rabul Izat k wajood k andar they. Jis trah Aik musawar k Takhliq krny sy pehly wo sari Takhliq us k zahan man the, Jub usny is ko papar par draw kia to wo koi sorat ban gai. Jub Aik Zaat Allah Rabul Izat k Siwa kuch Nahi Tha, Yeh Sub Kahan se Aa Gey. Allah Rabul Izat Noor han, Noor Jub koi Cheez Banay ga to wo Noori he Banay ga. FRAQ Sirf itna hey, Hum man Noor e Aqal Aur Noor e Ilam ki Kami Hey. Jitni Taqat Allah Rabul Izat ki zaat man hey utni he taqat usk amar man hey. Usny Kaha Ay Noor Munjamind ho ja, Munjamind ho gya Zamin Ban Gai, Asmaan ban gya. Hawa Ban gai ,Pani ban gaya. Pani Sath Charo Mati ko goonda to Adam AS Ban gey, Insaan Ban gey. JUB yeh Cheezain Then he Nahi to Kahan se Aa gain. AIK Noor Hey jis ki Sorat ka Hum Taayan Nahi Kr skty, Roshni ki hum Defination Nahi kr sakty. Allah Rabul izat ney frmaya Nafakhto fehe Min Rohi, Adam AS k andar main e Apni Roh Phonki, Allah Rabul izat Noor Hain to uski Phonk b Noori Ho ge, Mane Adam AS ko Apny Hathoon se banaya. Roh Phonkna Allah Rabul Izat ka Amar hey, Jub Allah Rabul Izat ki Zaat Noor Hey, to uska Amar b to Noor Ho ga na. Jub uska Amar Noor Hey To Bata tu kia hey, Tu b Noori Hey, Likun Allah Rabul Izat Ki Zaat Qul ul qul Hey aur tery andar aik juz jitna noor hey, jitni tery anadr istadad hey.( Continue)
     
  3. Baber30

    Baber30 New Member

    Allah Rabuliezzat nay Hazrat Adam A.S ko matti say banaya hum sab Adam ke aulad ha quran ma likha ha Hazrat Mohammad SAW Bashir ha wo Nauzubillah Noor min nooriallah nahi ye shirk ha jis nay ye kaha shirk ke wadiyon ma chala gaya Mohammad SAW Allah kay Rasool ha banday ha Nauzubillah Summah NaAuzubillah Allah kay noor ka tokra nahi Allah Pak ha Surah Ikhlas ka tarjumah perhu Kaho Allah aik ha wo beniaz ha na he wo kisi ke aulad ha aur na he us ke koi Aulad ha aur us ke jesa koi nahi
    ALLAH Pak ha aik ha ye dunya Allah Rabuliezzat nay takhleeq qi ha shot an nay Hazrat Adam A.S ko sajhdah kernay say mana kiya q wo kehta tha Hazrat Adam matti kay banay ha ma aaj say bana hu aaj ziyada taqat war ha Hazrat Adam A.S matti kay banay ha aur hum sab Adam A.S kay betay ha Hazrat Mohammad SAW bhi matti kay banay ha insaan ha Bashir ha Quran ma saaf likha ha wo Nauzubillah Noor min nooriallah nahi ha apnay aqeday sahi kero ye khulla shirk ha Allah Pak ha aik ha
     
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  4. Khalilattari

    Khalilattari New Member

    Babar Bhai Aslaaam o Alikum, Allah Rabul Izat Frmaty han Tilkal Amsaaal o Nadriboha Linnaas e La Allah Kum Yatafakarooon , Hum Masaalain Biyaan krty hain un logon k liay jo Ghouro fikar krty han tadabar krty han. (Fa Aynamata walo Fasama Wajhu Allah) ka Matlab mujy samjha dain. Please
     
  5. Baber30

    Baber30 New Member

    Tumharey souch ulti ha tu is ma mera kiya qasoor Quran ka apney taraf say ulta matlab mat niakla kero
    Wahdatul wajood ko tum jis tarha paish ker rahay hu ye shirk ha is ayat ka tarjumah ha pra sunnu Fa Aynamata walo Fasama Wajhu Allah
    surah 2 ayat 115 ka tarjumah jo tum nay ghlat matlab liya tarjumah ha
    (Porab aur Percham yani Masriq aur Magrib sab kuch Allah Rabulizzat he ka ha jidhar tum Rukh kero udhar Khuda ke zaat ha aur beshak Allah Wosat wala Ilam wala ha)
    ye ha pora tarjuma aur tum nay ye arbi kay word ka tarjumah jidhar tum Rukh kero udhar Khuda ke zaat ha jis ka tum nay ghalat matlab nikala is ka matlab tafseer ha Allah apnay Arsh say tumhaye dekh rahay ha tum kahey bhi hu ager tum achay kaam kero gay tu Allah ke Rehmat ai gi
    logical samjhata hu aik insaan dosray insaan ko kehta ha kay tum fala insaan say fight kerna ma tumharey sath u is ka kiya matlab wo tu phisically tumharey sath nahi hu jab ye insaan us kay sath fight karain ga ye aik mahawaratan bola jata ha jis ka tum ghalat matlab le rahay hu Allah Rabul izzat Arsh per ha Allah ke Tabat pori dunya ko gehrey hue ha jab Hazrat Mohammad SAW kisi maidanay jang ma jatey tu Allah ke Madad ati ha Allah Rabul izzat Nauzubillah khoud tu nahi ati Farestay ko behjtay ha wesay he Allah her jagha moujood ha say murad Allah ke taqat her jagha moujood ha likin Allah sirf Arsh per ha Quran ma likha ha
    baqool tumharey Nauzubillah sab kuch allah ha summah Nauzubillah phir Allah nay Ambiyan ko q behja ager baqool tumhare Nauzubillah sab kuch Allah ha tu sharab khana janwar toilet gandi aurtain ganday mard in sub ko kiya kahu gay ye khola open shirk ha wahdatul wajood ussay say bachu pechley qoum nay sirf ye kaha tha kay Nauzubillah Auzair Allah ka beta ha essai nay kaha Hazrat Essa .A.S allah kay betay ha tu Allah rabulizzat nay quran ma kaha likha huwa ha perh lu zameen asman phat jai phar raiza raiza hu jai unhu nay Allah ka beta bana liya astagferullah Allah kay azab say daro wahdatul wajoud aik shirk aqeedah ha issay bachu surah Iklas perh lu tarjumah
    Kahu Allah aik ha wo beniaz ha na he us ki koi aulad aur na hi wo kisi ke aulad ha aur us kay jesa koi nahi
    hope u understand jazakallah
    Allah Arsh per ha jesay us kay Shaan kay laik ha Allah ke taqat pori dunya ko gehray hue ha
     
  6. sabashahid

    sabashahid New Member

  7. badal0079

    badal0079 WDC Student

    Sab ashaq e Rasool ko Salam. sab say pahlay is maslay ko zahan main rakh lain k Quran e Pak ki koi aiyat english ya kisi or zaban main nahain likhi ja sakti. baray mahrbani ainda likh ker gonagar mat hoon.
    Noor o Bashir ka masla samachnay k lia ilm ka hona Zaroori hay. Dosri bat is k lia Sahe rastay ki taraf rahnmai ka jazba hona Zarori hay. Tesree bat is main hatdarmi say bachna zaroori hay. Chothi bat Ajzi Zaroori hay.
    masila Noor o Bashir k baray main mera moqaf ya hay k Allah nay Hazrat Muhammad ko tamam Makhloq say pahlay Pida fermaya.
    Phir sub Imbia k Akhir main Mabos fermaya.
    Bashir ki tareef ya hay k bashir aik lebada hay. is ko ager noor per orr do to is ko bhi bashir kah saktay hain or ager Khak per to is ko bhi bashar kah saktay hain.
    sawal ya hay k kia Noori or Khaki ik jaga akhthay ho saktay hain.
    to is ka jawab hain haan ho saktay hain. Quran e Pak say hamary pas is ki masalain mojod hain. Hazrat Jibrail or Hazrat Maryam ki misal. Hazrat Jibrail in k pass bashir ki Sorat main aiy. Haroot maroot ki misal. in dono firashtoon nay shadian bhi ki olad bhi hoi.
    is k ilawa bhi Ahadees o Tafaseer ki books main misalian mojod hain.
    ab ya masila hal hogia k noor or khaki dono bashar ho saktay hain.
    Hamara Iman hay k Allah jis ko chahay noori bana day jis ko chahay Khaki banaday or jis ko chahay nari banaday.
    as Sawal ya hay k jab Allah noori ko Khaki or Khaki ko noori ya ik hi lebaday main doono ko bana sakta hay to Hazrat Muhammad ko kion nahain noori or Khaki dono safat atta ker sakta.
     
  8. badal0079

    badal0079 WDC Student

    Sab ashaq e Rasool ko Salam. sab say pahlay is maslay ko zahan main rakh lain k Quran e Pak ki koi aiyat english ya kisi or zaban main nahain likhi ja sakti. baray mahrbani ainda likh ker gonagar mat hoon.
    Noor o Bashir ka masla samachnay k lia ilm ka hona Zaroori hay. Dosri bat is k lia Sahe rastay ki taraf rahnmai ka jazba hona Zarori hay. Tesree bat is main hatdarmi say bachna zaroori hay. Chothi bat Ajzi Zaroori hay.
    masila Noor o Bashir k baray main mera moqaf ya hay k Allah nay Hazrat Muhammad ko tamam Makhloq say pahlay Pida fermaya.
    Phir sub Imbia k Akhir main Mabos fermaya.
    Bashir ki tareef ya hay k bashir aik lebada hay. is ko ager noor per orr do to is ko bhi bashir kah saktay hain or ager Khak per to is ko bhi bashar kah saktay hain.
    sawal ya hay k kia Noori or Khaki ik jaga akhthay ho saktay hain.
    to is ka jawab hain haan ho saktay hain. Quran e Pak say hamary pas is ki masalain mojod hain. Hazrat Jibrail or Hazrat Maryam ki misal. Hazrat Jibrail in k pass bashir ki Sorat main aiy. Haroot maroot ki misal. in dono firashtoon nay shadian bhi ki olad bhi hoi.
    is k ilawa bhi Ahadees o Tafaseer ki books main misalian mojod hain.
    ab ya masila hal hogia k noor or khaki dono bashar ho saktay hain.
    Hamara Iman hay k Allah jis ko chahay noori bana day jis ko chahay Khaki banaday or jis ko chahay nari banaday.
    as Sawal ya hay k jab Allah noori ko Khaki or Khaki ko noori ya ik hi lebaday main doono ko bana sakta hay to Hazrat Muhammad ko kion nahain noori or Khaki dono safat atta ker sakta.
     
  9. Baber30

    Baber30 New Member

    tum nay shirk kiya aik exapmle deta hu aik tissue
    ha ager 2 tokray tissue kay kero aik hissa tissue khelaye ga aur dosra kiya keh layega?wo bhi lazmi tissue he kahlyeye ga
    Allah Noor say banay ha Farstay Noor say banay ha likin wo Noor alag ha Hazrat Mohammad SAW bashir ha insaan ha un kay waldain thay Noor hutay tu khana peena biwi bachay nahi hutay aqel use ki hutey tu shirk na kehtay farstay noor say banay ha wo na khatay ha na peetay ha na shadi kertay ha thori aqel use ker liya kero quran ma saaf likha ha hum nay Nabi SAW ko paida kiya tumharey qabelay say tumharey khandan say tumhare qoum say tumhare Nafz say Nafz mean bashi insaan kiya tum Hazrat Mohammad SAW kay waldain ko bhol gai?
    tum nay shirk kiya Allah say maafi mangu tum nay nauzubillah Hazrat Mohammad SAw ko Allah ka shareek banaya jo shirk ha Hazrat Mohammad SAW Allah kay Akhari Nabi ha
     
  10. Baber30

    Baber30 New Member

    Tum nay shirk kiya Allah say maafi mangu ager bena maafi tobah keye mout agai tu Quran ma likha ha Allah Rabbulizzat Fermatay ha ager Ma chahu tu saray gunah maaf ker sakta hu likin shirk ko kabhi maaf nahi kero ga ager shirk ke halat ma bagher tobah keye mara
    aik Misaal deta hu Aik tissue ha us kay ager 2 tokray karain tu pehla Hissa Tissue kehlaye ga aur dosra?offcourse dosra bhi tissue kehlaye ga
    Allah Noor say banay ha aur farstay noor say banay ha likin farstay ka noor alag ha proof Hazrat Moosa A.S nay jab kaha Allah ma aap ko de sakhta hu tu Allah nay sirf aik phar per tajalli dali aur hazrat Mossa A.S behosh hogaye aur farstay ka noor sareay ambiyan nay Hazrat Jibrael A.S ko dekha jab wo wahi leker atay thay aur koi behosh nahi huwa issay baat sabit hue Allah ka noor different aur faristay ka noor different ha ab tumharey jawab ki taraf ata hu
    kiya tum bhol gai Hazrat Mohammad SAW kay waldain ko kiya tum Quran ko nahi mantay Quran ma lkha ha Hazrat Mohabbat SAW bashir ha aik aur jagha likha ha Allah Rabulizzat fermatay ha hum nay Nabi SAW behja tumahrey qoum say tumhare Nafz say nafz means bashir insaan
    Farstay Noor say banay ha jo noori hutay ha wo na khata ha na peeta ha na un ka khoun nikalta ha aur na hi shadi kertay ha saboot quran ma ha Hazrat Loot A.S kay pass faresta aya Hazrat Loot A.S ko pata nahi tha ye faresta ha jo insanyoun kay roop ma aye Hazrat Loot A.S nay khana Rakha tu farestyoun nay nahi kahaya phir farestyoun nay bataya hum farestay ha hamay Allah nay behja ha Hazrat Mohammad SAW khana khatay thay pani peetay thay taif ma khoon bhi nikla jo insaan ko nikalta ha Hazrat Mohammad SAW kay waldain bhi thay aur Hazrat Mohammad SAW ki Azwajae mutahirat aur bachay bhi thay ager nauzubillah noor hotay baqool tumhare tu ye sab kuch nahi hutay Allah ka khouf kero tum nay shirk kiya Ager baqool tumhare Hazrat Mohammad SAW noor thay nauzubillah tu wo kis ki ebadat kertain thay ?q kay wo bhi noor thay baqool tumharey nauzubillah Allah bhi Noor ha aqel ko use kiya kero Hazrat Mohammad SAW ka saya bhi tha Hadeese ma ha shirk say bachu Allah say tobah kero tum nay shirk kiya
     
    Last edited: Jun 23, 2017 at 11:28 PM

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