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Discussion in 'Gupshup' started by farhan_112, Oct 17, 2003.

  1. farhan_112

    farhan_112 New Member

    salaam ....kaisay hein sab ??

    kia hum kitaabi ilaam hasil kiye bina ..muashray mien acha muqam hasil ker saktay hien ..jo k doosro ki nazar mien bhe acha sabit ho ?? :)
     
  2. Naz

    Naz New Member

    kitabii ilm say aapkii murad, taaleem hay.taaleem hasil kerna ashad zaroori hay.mu,aashiray ya doosronkii nazer mein acha saabit hona,taaleem say hii nahein bal-k achii fitrat say bhii sabit ho sakta hay.aur insaanmein achii ya burii fitrat to roz-e-azal say maujood hay.
    bohat say taaleem-yafta bhii bad-fitrat hain aur bohat say ghair-taaleemyafta bhii nek-fitrat hain.ab ager insaan chahta hay k wo doosronkii nazer mein acha ho, to issi lagan k liyey wo apnii fitrat badal bhii sakta hay.kehtay hain k fitrat nahein badaltii, lekin ye zaroorii nahein.koshish aur pakka irada karein to ham apnii fitrat nek bana saktay hain.
     
  3. farhan_112

    farhan_112 New Member

    nice reply naz ...aap ka point of view acha hei .ab aik insaan kisi say sirfkoi achi baatein sun k aur n pay amal ker k bhe tou acha muqam hasil ker sakta hei na .....mera mukamal ishara taleem ki taraf nahi tha .:)
     
  4. nanusrat

    nanusrat New Member

    farhan... welcome... acha topic hai... aap key mazeed post ka intizar rahay ga...
    ilm k baghair insan apahaj hai...
     
  5. Dua

    Dua New Member

    Ferhan....urdupages.com main ap ko je ayan noo....:)....
    ...excellant question....ilm insan k liay kamyabi ke kunji hai...ilm chahay vo kisis bhi cheez ka ho...mushahida bhi ilm hota hai....acha dekh ker seekhna aur us per amal ker k ager koi agay berhta hai aur us main kamyab bhi hota hai.....hum ager tareekh ko dekhain to waqt ke shuruat say to kitabi ilm nahi tha na....log aik dosray say seekhte thay aur aj un he logon k chotay chotay mushahiday he humaray aj k jaded daur ke base hain...
     
  6. farhan_112

    farhan_112 New Member

    shukria jee :)
    mera point yeh hei k ..insaan kisi say sun k achi baaton ko aur un pay amal ker k bhe tou acha muqam bana sakta hei hein muaashray mien :)
     
  7. farhan_112

    farhan_112 New Member


    shukria jee :)
    aap ka point of view bhe acha hei :)
    lekin mera point yahi hei k ..insaan perrha likha nahi ..aur ager woh kisi say sirf achi baatein sun k he un pay amal ker k bhe kia ..acha muqam hasil nahi ker sakta ??:)
     
  8. Dua

    Dua New Member

    bilkul ker sakta hai..lekin aj ka daur proof mangta hai..her cheez ka proof...aur khali ilm ya achaay amaal degree nahi detay..is liay jab us k pas koi proof nahi hota to wo agay nahi berh sakta us ilm ko kam main nahi la sakta
     
  9. farhan_112

    farhan_112 New Member

    sahi kaha aap nay keh proof maanga jata hei lekin aap ki yeh baat keh achay amaal digree nahi dilatay ...tou humien dunyawi digree say ziada aakhrat mien achi digree ki ziada zaroorat hogi ...lekin ab hum duniyaa mien aaiay hein tou humko duniyaa ki rasmo ko bhe nibhana hoga ..aur aakhrat ki fiker bhe kerni hogi ...aur zamanay k saath bhe chalna hoga .
    aur be-shak taleem zaroor seekhna hogi :)
     
  10. dhanak

    dhanak New Member

    farhan aisee misalain hain jaisay janab abdul sattar edhi un kay pass taleeme qaabliyat tu naheen per woh moashray main izaat ke nigah say dekhay ja saktay hain kitabi ilm ke zarorat say inkar nahen laikin eik kitab insaan ko acha naheen banate na he moashray main acha muqaam dilatee hay .laikin ilm say he admee ke sooch waseeh hote hay woh batoon ko asanee say samjhta hay .
     
  11. ammadzs

    ammadzs Guest

    ji bilkul sahi kaha hai aap ne ilm ke bagair insan adhora hai
     
  12. farhan_112

    farhan_112 New Member

    well come here jee :)
    bilkul sahi kaha aap nay .aap nay bhe point ko samjha ..aur aik achi misaal dei ..mien aap ki baat say itfaq kerta hoon .
     
  13. farhan_112

    farhan_112 New Member

    ok jee aap ka point bhe sahi hei .:)
     
  14. Romeo

    Romeo New Member

    bilkul nahin
     
  15. farhan_112

    farhan_112 New Member

    ACHA :)
     
  16. chikna

    chikna New Member

    shaid aap ilm ki wusaat se waqif nahin meri jaan ....
    shaid aap log meri baat na manain magar ........yeh k aik din ka bachha bhi ilm hasil ker raha huta hai .......baghar koi kitab perhay woh muashre main apna muqam bananay lagta hai........han baad main achhay muqam k lie sanwi aloom us ko nikhar detay hain.......
     
  17. mobin

    mobin New Member

    nahin kar sakta yaar mera to yehi jawab hay
    chikna ne bhi theek kaha
     
  18. farhan_112

    farhan_112 New Member

    nice reply .
    sahi kaha aap nay .
     
  19. farhan_112

    farhan_112 New Member

    acha :)
     
  20. Fani

    Fani New Member

    ACHA :p

    FANI
     

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