Plz Help - Niyaz/Fatiha

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  1. ssameerr

    ssameerr WDC Student

    salam Dosto
    Ek choti sa masla hai dosto
    darasal muujhe is barein mein ilm nahi hai is liye aap dosto se poochna chahata hun main
    masla yeh hai ki, mera dost mujh se kehta hai ki fatiya/Niyaz karna haram hai
    aur niyaz ka khana bhi haram hai
    jab ki mere ghar mein niyaz hoti hai aur yeh to buhat phele se chala aa raha hai
    jab se maine yeh suna hun main buhat confuse hun
    mere dost ne quran shreef ka hawala diya hai ki aisa quran shreef mein hai ki
    niyaz nahi karna chahiye
    koi mujhe bata sakta hai ki asleeyut kya hai, aur quran mein aisa hai to kanha hai
    plz meri help karo
     
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  2. asif8943

    asif8943 New Member

    Nazar ke barain main (Sure Maida ayat-3) main bhi is ka zikar hai ke ye haram hai.tafseel ke lye main apne signature main is ke tafseer jald dalraha hoon.

    wo tafseel se jawab ho ga Quran aur Ahadees ki roshni main.


    Note:Signature main link ka naam yeh ho ga (Nazar sirf Allah ke lye aur kisi ke lye nahin)

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  3. ssameerr

    ssameerr WDC Student

    Shukriya Dost aaj se Faitha / Niyaz Bund
     
  4. leftarm

    leftarm New Member

    Bahut Khushi hoee aap nay sawal kia or phir dlail perhnay kay ba'ad usko mana Asif Bhai ka shukriya ka unho nay Hawalay kay saath is ka jawab dia.....

    laikin Der is baat ka hai kay kahi Khuda na khuwasta aisa na hoo kay
    koee biddatee hazrat jo insab ko Mantay hai woh apni Jhootee or Manghrat
    riwayat ko aisa tord mord ker paish karaingay ka aap shak mai perd jaingay
    phir aap makhmasay mai na perd jay kay koon sahi hai

    Lay-haza Aisf Bhai kay Daleel ko dil say tasleem karay or usi per karband rahay
    naiz apnay taur bhi deen ki smajhnay ki koshsih karay.....
    Traq-e-kaar ziada mushkil nahi......
    1-Quran ka Turjuma perdhay........
    Tafseer albtta bahut soo nay apnay adaz mai kee hai......lay-haza daikh ker
    kay koon QURAN ka sahi Matlab or Hawalay kay lia Sahi Ahadith ka intikhaab kerta hai....

    2-Ahadith ki kutub bhi perhay saha-e-sitta or iskay elwa bhi ahadith ki kutub ka muta'la karay.
    3-Jumla Fraiz ki aisee Mustanad kitab jis mai Sala(Namaz) say lay ker JIHAD tak kay Tareqa-e-kaar ...naiz Shadi Biah....Talaq....ghurz ma'shray kay
    deegar masail kay hal per mabni kutub hoo
    4-Tareekhi Kutub ka muta'la Khususan Seerta-e-Nabi(S.A.W) pr kutub
    perdhay inshaALLAH ye sari cheezay aap kay ILM mai ezafa karaingee

    JazakAllah Asif Bhai
     
  5. asif8943

    asif8943 New Member

    jahan tak baat kutub ki hai to maine apne link main eik book ka link dya hai.(Aap ke masail aur un ka hal) us book main peda hone se lakar mot tak ke tamam masail sirf aur sirf Quran aur Ahadees ke hawale se dye gaye hain.

    kisi ke rai nahi hai.

    jahan tak baat tafseer ki hai main eik tafseer inshallah kuch harse main upload karo ga.jis ki eik jhalak aap mere signature ke link (Nazar sirf Allah ke lye aur kise ke lye nahi ) ye sure maida aur sure albaqra-172-173 ki tafseer hai.

    is ko parh kar inshallah aap ye ke sake gain ke ye sirf aur sirf Quran aur sahih ahadees se likhe gaye hai.

    Aap sab logo ka shukria.

    kisi bi baat ke lye ab poch sakte hai
     
  6. saadunleashed

    saadunleashed New Member

    jis khaney par ALLAH ka ..........PAK KALAAM parh kar dum kiya jaey...

    wo khana HARAM kese ho sakta hai???

    koi wazahat far mey ga?????????????
     
  7. Slave of Allah

    Slave of Allah New Member

    Jazakallah Bhai.
    keep posting please.
    i gree with you.
    Waslam-o-Alaikum
     
  8. hina_sinc3r3

    hina_sinc3r3 New Member

    AOA
    I m little bit confused...
    Hum khud khatam wagaira dilwatay hain , mujhey poochna ye hai k agar dekha jayey to hum logg khatam shareef men kartay kya hain, dekhyey khatam shareef men hum ye hi kartay hain na k quraaan ki kuch SURA'S parhtay hain or baad men dua kartay hain k hum ney ye jo khatam parha isay Allah qabool farmayey or iss ka sawab azad se abad takk k muslims ko pohanchayey....ab sawal ye paida hota hai k iss men aisi kon c buri baat hai ...dekhein islam kisi bhi achi baat ko nai rokta, eik bhai ney uper quraaan ka hawala dya hai , uss hawalay men GAIR-ALLAH ki niyaaz, khatam shareef ka ye matlab to nahi hai na k hum kisi or khuda ki TALAWAT kar rahay hain kisi , hum khatam shareef men bhi ALLAH ki hi TALAWAT kartay hain na to kehnay ka matlab ye hai k, har kisi ka apna point of view hota hai ab quran ka hawala jo uper dya gya hai uss se hum ye kaisay bol saktay hain k ALLAH ney khatam, nazar etc ko haraam qarar dya
    jo key point hai wo to ye hai na k GAIR-ALLAH ki nayaaz, agar humari niyaaten sahi hon or hum ALLAH ki barai bayaaan karnay k liyey uss ki khushi k liyey uss ka pak qalaam ki talawat kartay huway khatam shareef kartay hain to kya wo HARAAM ho ga....?
     
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  9. hina_sinc3r3

    hina_sinc3r3 New Member

    men ney aap logon se eik or baat maloom karna thi , sorry men apnay alag se new thread nai likh sakti sorry ssameerr bhai aap k thread men apni problem share kar rai hoon coz meri posts 100 se kam hai iss liyey mujhey permission nai hai new thread likhnay ki.....
    mujhey aap logon se ye maloom karna hai k men ney MBA men recently addmission lya hai , iss se pehley men ney BA kar rakha hai ab mujhey accounting men bohat problem ho rai hain kya UP ki tarhaan accounting se related koi aisi web hai jahaaan accounting se related problems ko share kya jaa sakay???
     
  10. ATTARI

    ATTARI New Member

    BHai jan Bat sirf etni hey k Nazar NIyaz bhi Allah Azwajal k liye hee huti hey
    so Haram kessy hana us ka sawab kissi ur k nam kia jata hey yani un Allah Wallon key nam jin key nam kee Urf main Niyz boli jati hey

    Khana samney rak kar Quran parhen sey kahan haram nahi hu skata
    ur jo nazar ka ya niyaz ka janawar huta hey us ka bhi yahi mamla hey
    kion k jab wo janwar zibha kia jata hey tu Bismilla He Allah u AKaber hee kaha jata hey kiss Wali ya nabi ka nam nahi lia jata

    Agar yeh sub Haram hey tu phir shadi biya ka khan a salgra ur cack ur dosri lawzmat bhi karam hu gai na wo b tu kiss key sat mansoob hu jati hain
    Aggar Gossey Azam kee giyareen ka khana haram hey tu phir Sajad ke shadi ka khana ur Ashraf key Walemy ka ur Qasam kee salgira ka sub haram huwa k nahi kion k ye b tu en sub key nam sey mansoob hey.

    so Nazr niyaz Allah k liye hee huti hey us ka sawab us ke Mahlloq key liay
    yeh sub ihtmam huta hey baqi Allah kee rah main
     
  11. ATTARI

    ATTARI New Member

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  12. ATTARI

    ATTARI New Member

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    ALLAH HUM SUB KA HAMI O NASIR HU
     
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  13. dil_nasheen

    dil_nasheen New Member

    Attari bhai aap ne bikul sehi kaha hai mera bhi yehi mashwra hai or aap asif8943 shahb aap ye batain ke Allah waly or gair ullah main kia farq hai
     
  14. dil_nasheen

    dil_nasheen New Member

    Bhai Allah Waloon Or Gair Ullah Main Kia Farq Hai Aap Apny Dost Se Ye Poochye Ga Or Zara Is Paper Per Gor Karaye Ga Apny Dost Ko

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  15. ITMIND

    ITMIND New Member

    athari bahi aap ne bilkul sahi kaha
    bohat khoob:)

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  16. taz_zia

    taz_zia New Member

    Attari bhai aur Hina sister are right

    Baat samjhne ki hai
    jin ki tassali nahi hui woh Mere AlaHazrat Imam Ahmad Raza ki Tafseer parrahain
    Insha Allah aap ko sab samjh aa jaye ga
     
  17. dil_nasheen

    dil_nasheen New Member

    Sameer Bhai Ab Aap Ne Kafi Kuch Sikh Or Samaj Bhi Lia Ho Ga Ab Tantion Lene Ki Zroorat Nehi Kia Samjy Aap Apny Dost Ki Baat Kar Rahy Hian Mera Bhai Bhi Ek Hai Jo Wahabioon Ki Lian Per Char Giya Hia Lekin Main Un Ki Batoon Per Gor Nehi Karta Aap Ko Bhi Gor Nehi Karna Chaiye Or Haan Agar Koi Aisa Sawal Kary To Usy Keh Do Hum Ehl-e-sunat Wajamt Se Hain Or Sath Hi Aslatuwaslamulaika Yarasooallah Ka Nara Laga Dijye Shaitan Bhag Jayn Ge
     
  18. IMRAJA

    IMRAJA Online Writing & Marketing Student

    Nazr o Nayaz

    Assalam Alaikum Brothers, Sisters and Frenz.
    Mujhey bohaat khushi hoee k aik Ilmi Behs ho rahi hey, Hum sub ko chahiye k hamesha Deen mein tafakkr aur samjh hasil kertey rahein, yehi Allah ka Hukam b hey aur Yehi hamarey Piyare Nabi Paak nay b fermaya hey,
    Aur bhai is mein voting ki zarooret nahi hey,aur na hee blindly kisi cheez ko adopt kerna hey bulkeh hamara deen hamein ye sikhata hey k jo baat ap poori samjh aur fiker k baad theek samjhein usay ikhtiaar ker lain, aur is silsilaey mein hamarey pass sirf 2 cheezein hein (Quran aur Sunnah) aur phir hamara deen aik larhi(Chain) ki tarah tasalsal say chala aa raha hey, sub kuch documented hey, busss thori si mehnat aur struggle ki zarooret hey, hum dunya jahaan ka ilm hasil kertey hein lekin deen k liye thora sa time b nahi nikaltey.
    ab mein is masley mein sirf 2, 3 baatein arz karoonga. jis kisi ki b tahqeeq meri baat say match kerti ho wo isay adopt ker lay aur ager kisi bhai ka itminan kisi aur baat pay ho tu wo usay ikhtiaar karey, Deen mein koee zabardasti nahi hey, sari baat tehqeeq (in the right direction & according to Quran & Sunnah) ki hay.
    sub ibadtoon say afzal Namaz hey aur Namaz mein sub say mehboob Amal Sajda hey, her Rakaa't mein 2 sajdey hotey hein, Ab ghaur kerney ki ye baat hey k ager koee shakhs Allah ki muhabbet mein 2 ki jagah 3 sajdey karey tu kia ye namaz theek ho gi ??????? Sajda tu Allah ko hee ho ga aur tasbeeh b usi k liye ho gi lekin kia aisi namaz Allah ko Qabool ho gi ????? Hergiz nahi, q k Allah ka Hukam, Hamarey Nabi ki Sunnat aur Sahaba ka musalsal Amal is k khilaaf hey, Busss yehi Paymana hum kisi b muamley mein rakh lein tu baat forun hamari samaj mein aa jaeygi, baqi Walima tu sunnat e Nabvi hey, aur Birth day Cake/meal ki Deen mein koee hasiyet nahi. aur dear brothers n sisters ye kabhi na sochein k hamarey parents/ajdaad ka amal kia hey, hamein apney ajdaad ki nahi apney Nabi ko follow kerna hey,
    Mera maqsad mehz Deen ki baat kehna hey kisi bhai ki dil azari nahi , Allah hum sub ka Hami o Nasir ho aur hamein apney deen ki behter samjh aur fiker ata karein , Ameen.
     
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  19. Aurang Zaib

    Aurang Zaib New Member

    Seedhi c bat hay kay quran men wazay tor per kaha gaya hay kay gher Allah ki nazro niyaz haram hay to bhai ham log to Allah kay naam ki nazro niyaz kertay hain jo kay meray moon men khaak haram ho hi nahin sakti....
    rahi bat kay Allah kay naik bandon ko isaly swab kay liye kiun nazar ki jati hay to bhai us per bhi to Allah ka hi naam liya jata hay us banday ka to nahin liya jata han ye zaroor hay kay Allah ka ayat jo tlawat ki jati hain unka sawab un bandon ko bakhsha jata hay to haram kahan say ho gaya ... wah wah Allah ka zikar karo uska sawab Nabi Paak ki ummat ko baksho ye kahan say haram ho gaya .....
    rahi bat kay Allah kay naik bandon ki kramat ya unki sunnat men Allah kay naam ki nayaz deni chahiye ya nahin to meray bhai iska sirf aik jawab hay kay hmary pyary Nabi Sallal Laho Alehy Wasallam nay khud hazrat Ibrahim Aleh Salam ki sunnat ko tazza kiya aur ummat ko bhi hidayat farmaee kay Ibrahim Aleh Salam ki sunnat kay tor per qurbani diya karo ... agar pyary Nabi Sallal Laho Alehy Wasallam kay farman per amal kerna nauzo billa haram hay to bhai apnay imaan ki tajdeed ker lo esa na ho kay qayamat kay din pakar ho jaye ..
    Allah Sohna ham sab ko hidayat wala rasta dikhae Aameen.
     
    Last edited: May 18, 2007
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  20. ITMIND

    ITMIND New Member

    Sahi Kaha
     

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