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Discussion in 'Gupshup' started by me here, Feb 2, 2005.

  1. Al-Qaida

    Al-Qaida New Member

    I m with u......aap jeet jaein gi..... :rolleyes: :D
     
  2. me here

    me here New Member

    Kitne log hain jo ghareebon k bare main sochte hain?
    Un ko pyar dena chahte hain….even ik insaniyat ka rishta bhi unhe yad nahin rehta
    Kitne log hain jo un k phatte kapron ko dekh ker unki serdi ka ahsas nahin kerte unk tan ko dhanpne ki koshish nahin kerte
    Kitne log unhe bhooka pait dekh ker khud pait bhar ker khana kha ker so jate hain
    Kitne log unko ik perha likha Pakistani banana ki zehmat tak nahin kerte
    Kitne log unki be basi ka mazak urate hain
    Kitne log un k naam un k zikr se bhi nafrat kerte hain
    Kitne log hain jinho ne aj tak nahin socha k jin kacche gharon main wo rehte hain begher bijli beger pankhe k…unka kia haal hota ho ga…
    Shaid apne kabhi visit kia ho…unk ghar itne chote hote hain k main sochti hon k inhe sans kese ata ho ga…
    Wo log to infact aise hain jinhe sans to a raha hai lakin wo zinda nahin hain
    Unki khwahishat roz tarapti hain sisakti hain lakin koi nahin jo sun le….

    Bus yahi batin QISMAT ko PESE se jor deti hain
    Kiyon k ye log yaqenan QISMAT ko hi qasorwar tehrate hon ge ya shaid is sab k adi ho gai hon ge
    Wo roz logon ki nafraton ka nishana bante hain jab k un k seene main bhi dil hai & wo bhi yaqenan dukhta ho ga,….
    Lakin hum nahin sochte:eek::mad:
     
  3. me here

    me here New Member

    :rolleyes:...:eek:.....:p
    shukerya al-qaida bhai:):D
     
  4. me here

    me here New Member

    ap ka reply main kal don gi sis!:)
     
  5. me here

    me here New Member

    reply 2 filba sis!

    Asssalam-o-alikum sis!
    apki bat 100% theek hai k AZMAISH ALLAH apne pasandeeda bandon per hi dalta hai...but sis ik baccha jab peda hota hai to us ka examination start ho jata hai wo jon jon bara hota jata hai wase wase usko acchi buri chezon ka pata chalta hai & ye bhi k is raste per chale to ALLAH TALLA hum se razi rahe ga & ager is k opposite raste per chale to wo naraz ho jai gA,& phir ik waqt ata hai k insaan sab kuch jan leta hai jese waqt guzarta hai wase hi her insaan apne ird gird kuch boundry bana leta hai k is k bahir mar k bhi nahin jana lakin sometimes wo un boundries ko bhi cross ker deta hai...
    beshak ALLAH apne pasandeda bandon ko azmaish main dalta hai lakin wo un ko AZMAISH main ziada dalta hai...lakin baqi bandon se bhi wo buhat pyar kerta hai ise liye kabhi acchi chez de ker kabhi buri chez dikha ker ALLAH humin check kerta hai
    ise liye to KHUSHI & GHAAM bhi hain take hum AZMAI ja sakin....
    beshak hum is qabil nahin lakin hamara MAQSAD to yahi hai k zindagi ko kuch aise guzar dain k AKHRAT main koi pachtawa na ho...
    ACCHA & BURA RASTA bhi ise liye hai take hamara level of sincerety check ho sake...
    nahin sis mera matlab TAKDEER k pehle likhe jane se ye her giz nahin hai k insan shoq se bura kam kare & kahe k ye to TAKDEER ki bat thi.ye jo AQAL hai hamare pas thori se:p ise bhi to use kernA hai na.
    TAKDEER pehle se likhi jane ka matlab ye hai k sab kuch pehle se decided hai k kis ko kitna rizq mile ga?kon kis muqam ko hasil kare ga?waghera...lakin is main 100% alteration mumkin hai mehnat ker k & DUA ker k...
    lakin off course ye soch ker kuch bhi na kerna k khana samne a jai ga aisa nahin hona chahiyye...baqi TAKDEER k pehle se likhe jane ka matlab ye tha k ALLAH sab kuch janta hai...ab WO kese janta hai is per to hum kuch nahin keh sakte
    dekhain jab koi bilkul sahee soch rakhta hai lakin sirf ik BE BUNYAD ILZAM ki waja se saza bhugat'ta hai to ye bhi to us k SABAR ka imtihan hai yahan hum ye nahin kahin ge k ALLAH NAUZUBILLAH zalim hai jabhi aisa hoa but ye TAKDEER thi & is liye thi k use AZMAYA ja sake...


    ik gunaah gar ko saza is liye milti hai kiyon k wo gunnah kerta hai & gunnah ka kerna ager uski TAKDEER main kerna tha bhi to kia wo apni SOCH istamal nahin ker sakta tha jab k use best of creation bhi banaya gaya ik KAM KERNE WALA DIMAGH bhi diyya gaya..
    TAKDEER ka is main koi qasoor nahin ye uska apna fault tha...
    TAKDEER main acche kam kerna bhi hote hain lakin hum apni KHUWAHISHAT ki parastish ki waja se wo nahin kerte to qasoor TAKDEER ka nahin hamara hai:eek:
    mujhko apki bat samajh a gai apko a gai meri samajh?:)

    "DO YOU THINK THAT WE CREATED YOU IN VAIN?"
    "WE CREATED JIN & INS SO THAT THEY PAY IBADAH EXCLUSIVELY TO ME(ALLAH)"

    ye 2 AYAT ka tarjuma hai,shaid exact words yahi hain...lakin mafhom 100% yahi hai
    is main bhi yahi bataya gaya na k INSAAN bekar main nahin peda kiyye gai bal k is liye take MERI IBADAT KARIN...yani SAHE raste ko ikhtiar karin & GHALAT ko nahin
    yani ik AZMAISH hai hum sab k liye...
     
  6. filbahere

    filbahere New Member

    me here sis
    tum ik baat bhool gai shayed
    key Allah sab kuch pehlay sey janta hay is ko gaib ka ilm kehtay haan
    takdeer naeen.
    so confusion door ker loo.
    ager hmm apni akal sey takdeer badal saktay haan to pir wo jo pehlay wala concept tha key likhi hoi hay wo ghalat ho jata hay , keeon key pir us key likhay janey ki waja hi naeen rah jati keeon key wo wakat ba wakat change ho rahi hay ,

    change ho rahi hay , likhi ja rahi hay , change ho rahi hay , pir likhi jaa rahi hay

    is sey sabit hota hay hmm 2 concepts ko mix kertay haan , gaib key ilm ko takdeer samjney lag jatey haan jab key esa naeen hay
    takdeer sirf aur sirf 2 ya us sey zeada afrad key mehnat ya ghafalat ka takraoo hoti hay. jis ka side effect kis na kisi per perta hay and wo apni usey takdeer keh ker beet jata hay

    hospitals main nurses ki khotai ki waja sey bachay un key hathoon sey gir ker mar jatey haan and us ko Allah ki raza and takdeer keh ker chup kerwa dia jata hay , halankey wo sara ka sara kasoor un narsoon and doctors ka hota hay
    ager wo ehtiat kareen to kabi esa na ho , lakin hmm dektay haan key aksar hota esa hi hay

    app key reply ka intazar rahey ga
     
  7. ~*sAhiRa*~

    ~*sAhiRa*~ New Member

    :) paisey ki ahmiaat sey inkaar nahi....paisa BOHAT KUCH hota hey magar SAB KUCH nahi....

    hamarey pass islaam main Ameer O Ghareeb dono tarah key sahaba e karam ki misalain mojood hain.....
    Hazrat Bilal.....jo nabi e kareem key sab sey qareebi sahabi aur khidmat guzar they.... wo kam soorat they unki zaban main luknat thi ghulam they un logon key jo Allah ko nahi mantey they aur hazrat Bilal key qubool e islam par unhain shadeed tareen takaleef pohanchaya kartey they.....ye iss duniya main unka naseeb tha...Ghulaam they ghulam key paisa nahi hota par naseeb ya taqdeer unki kia hey...key janat main nabi kareem key bad dakhil e janat hongey .......ghulam they...ghulam ki qismat kia thi key nabi ney hukam dia azan do...masjid e nabvi key pehley mouzin they....unki qismat ye thi key sari zindagee nabi ki khidmat main guzari....aur nabi ki apni zindagee kesi guzri wo sab jantey hain...wo chahtey to Allah sey kull kayenaat ki doulat mang saktey they bil subha de di jati....par wo sari zindagee ummat key liye bakhshsih mangtey rahey.....paisa kiyon nahi manga apni ummat key liye ...?

    Hazrat Usmaan ghani....unkey pass paisey ki kami nahi thi....par jo tha wo Allah ki raah main dey dia karety they...issi waja sey ghani kehlaye...
    unhon ney kion paisa Allah ki makhlooq par luta dia Allah ki rahh main luta dia ? agar paisa hi naseeb badalney ki kunji hota to wo issey apni zaat par kharch kartey kion jahad main laga dia ?
    kia Hazrat Bilal sey Allah jo raazi hua unki ghurbut ki waja sey ?unki kamsoorati ki waja sey unki zaban ki luknat ki waja sey (wo bhi logon ki nafraton ka bohat nishana baney dil unka bhi dukha hoga )
    kia hazrat usman ghani sey jo Allah raazi hua unki doulat ki waja sey... wo doulat jo ussi Allah ki di hoi thi ?............

    NAHI....Allah un sey unkey Amal ki badolat raazi hua....
    yani sabit hua paisa iss duniya main bohat kuch to hota hey par sab kuch nahi hota..magar AMAL har hal main SAB kuch hota hey..chahaey ye amal aap duiya ka paisa hasil karney key liye karain ya Akhirat main Allah ki raza hasil karney key liye karain.....
     
  8. me here

    me here New Member

    Ji ALLAH sab kuch pehle se janta hai & ise GHAIB kehte hain but GHAIB ka matlab hai “PEHLE SE KISE CHEZ KA PATA HONA”…& GHAIB ka ilm to kuch logon ko bhi hota hai kabhi KHWAB ki sorat main & kabhi un ki chatti his(6th sense) ki waja se…lakin TAKDEER is se alag hai…TAKDEER ye hai k:
    Aj ye insaan kia khai ga,kitna khai ga…
    & 6th sense indicate kerti hai kise chez ko jo hone wali ho yani jese ager kise jaga sailaab(flood) anew ala ho aur kise ko pata chal jai to ye GHAIB hai ALLAH ko to behrhal sab kuch pata hai…
    WO ilm-e-GHAIB bhi janta hai & logon ki TAKDEERIN bhi…
    QURAN PAAK hamare pas moujood hai take hum apni zindagi ko sahe se spend ker k apni TAKERIN sanwarin lakin sometimes sahe kam ka result bhi sahee nahin hota & ye QISMAT hai…& main ise AZMAISH bhi kehti hon
    Kiyon k sab kuch ALLAH ki marzi se hota hai INAM bhi & SAZA bhi & sometimes sahee ka result sahee nahin nikalta ye bhi…sirf is liye take hum AZMAI ja sakin…
    Lakin sis kabhi aisa bhi to hota hai k bure kam kerne wale sari zindagi aish-o-ashrat main guzar k mar jate hain ye ASAISHAIN un k liye AZMAISH hi to hoti hain na…
    Ik ameer insaan k liye uski DOLAT bhi AZMAISH hai k kiya wo use sahe istamal kerta hai k nahin…
    & HADEES main hai k:
    “TUMHARE LIYE TUMHARA MAAL AUR AULAD AZMAISHIN HAIN”
    is liye mere khiyal main GHAIB & TAKDEER do alag chezin hain wase inki detail main jane k liye humin QURAN & HADEES se maded leni chahiye!

    TAKDEER likhi ja chuki hai but change ho sakti hai MEHNAT & ALLAH KI RAZA(DUA) SE!
    Nurses wali bat main yaqenan qasor unka hi hai…ye QISMAT bhi hai lakin is main QASOOR QISMAT ka nahin unki LAPERWAHI ka hai!
     
  9. filbahere

    filbahere New Member

    ager main ghalat hoon to pir mujeh sirf itna bata deen
    keen ager sab kuch pehlay sey likha gia hay
    to pir saaza jaaza keeon
    ager koi accha kaam karey ga to us ko swab ya akharat main janat ka inam keeon milay ga, yeh to pir zeati hoi na key kuch ko apni marzi sey day dia
    and kuch ko kham kha hi jahanum main dal dia

    ager sab kuch likha hoa hay to pir kisi sorat bi koi kasoor karnay walay ka koi kasoor naeen hay. us ko jahanum jesay itni bari saza apni marzi sey keeon di jaaey gi key us key hisay main yeh likh dia gia.

    saaza jaaza apney keya per hoti hay , teek manti ho na
    yeh bi Quran main perha ho ga
    key Insan ko uttna hi dia jata hay jitnay key liya wo mehanat kerta hay.

    yeh bi parha ho ga key
    Allah insan per uttna hi bohj dalta hay jitna wo utta sakey.

    meray nazdeek ager kisi cheeze ka wakat mukarar hay to wo sirf mot ka wakat hay. baki kuch likha hoa naeen hay

    6th sense sey hmm guess kertay haan lakin lazmi naeen key exact wohi ho
    khab main esharey miltay haan , exact naeen hota

    gaib ka ilm sirf Allah key pass hay , even kisi nabi key pass bi naeen.
    Haan yeh mumkin hay key Allah khod wahi key zariay ambia ko kuch bata deein

    i still believe key log 2 concepts ko mix kertay haan. if i am wrong to app plz durust karwaeen.
    and us key liya app mujeh jaaza saaza waley concept ko explain kareen

    i will be thankful
     
  10. zaalim

    zaalim Premium Member

  11. me here

    me here New Member

    Hmmm ok main bhi ap k sath hon sis!:)
    Pesa ZARORAT hai lakin AHAM nahin hai,AHMIAT LOGON ki honi chahiye na k PESE ki!
    & yahan main ik bat kehna chahon gi k…
    ALLAH to hum sab ko peda kerne wala hai…WO hum se pyar bhi buhat kerta hai & hum sab main ager koi ziada ACCHA hai to wo apni PERHAZGARI ki waja se hai…
    Jab k ager hum INSANON main dekhin to yahan ziada IZZAT DAR wo hai jis k pas PESA hai….yahan chahe koi kitna hi accha kiyon na ho ager us k pas PESA nahin hai to bus uski koi izzat nahin jab k aisa nahin hona chahiye!....
    I m wid u!:)
     
  12. me here

    me here New Member

    FILBA sis apko reply abhi kerti hon...thora wait kijiye ga:)
    & ZAALIM BHAI nice shair...bal k buhaaaaaaat accha shar...:)
     
  13. kaleemjalali2005

    kaleemjalali2005 New Member

    man soch reha hno kya likhoon qesmet ore tedir ki bat hey jab kuch yad ay ga to likhoon ga
     
  14. me here

    me here New Member

    ok zaror share kijiye ga kaleem bhai!:)
     
  15. filbahere

    filbahere New Member

    me here reply ka intazar hay ........
     
  16. ~*sAhiRa*~

    ~*sAhiRa*~ New Member

    hmm sahi kaha aap ney....duniya paisey ko ahmiyat deyti hey...
    jabkey aisa nahi hona chahyie
    khush rahain hameyshaa :)
     
  17. me here

    me here New Member

    filba sis!:)
    saza jaza apne KIYYE per hi milti hai,koi zulm nahin ho ga AKHRAT main
    but prob wahi hai k mere nazaryat kehte hain k AZMAISH hi hai jiski waja se kabhi humin kuch nahin milta jis k liye hum expected hote hain & kabhi buhat kuch mil jata hai unexpectedly....
    insan ko apni AQAL use kerni chahiye her kam main yahi AZMAISH hai...
    dil ki bajai dimagh se sochna chahiye ager lage k dil jo keh raha hai wo nafs ki parastish hai aur sahee nahin...
    dekhin sis...insan is dunya main aya & hamari age main wo sab sahe & ghalat ki pehchan rakhta hai to wo ghalat kiyon kare....
    buhat se logon ko chances milte hain k wo RISHWAT lain but wo nahin lete
    kiyon k wo dil se nahin dimagh se sochte hain...ho sakta hai unki TAKDEER main rishwat khana likha ho but wo apni AQAL ko use ker k ghalat nahin kerte & so...wo AZMAISH per POORE uterte hAIn....:)
    bus yahi hai mera concept...aj kal main thori bussy hon but is per main tafseel se study karon gi...k main ghalat hon ya sahe & phir jo bhi result ai ga main ise thread main discuss bhi karon gi INSHALLAH...
    but sis...hota aisa hi hai main 99% abhi bhi apni bat per con4med hon but main yaqenan ghalat bhi ho sakti hon...
    ager abhi bhi koi confusion hai to ap discuss ker sakti hain...
     
  18. me here

    me here New Member

    ji bilkul!:)
    AP BHI KHUSH RAHIN SIS!:)
    apni qemti rai share kerne k liye buhaaaaaaaat sa thx!:)
     
  19. filbahere

    filbahere New Member

    ok i will wait for your next reply

    keeon key ager azmaish bi hay
    man liya to bi jaza saza ki waja sey takdeer wala wo concept to ghalat ho jata hay , in my point of view
    pir bi
    i need more explanation from you key app meri help karoo
    ok thanx
     
  20. me here

    me here New Member

    ok filba sis i'll INSHALLAH!:)
    just wait 4 a short while...ok
     
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