Quran in Urdu Or Arabic ? Please join our discussion.

Discussion in 'Islam' started by test, Jul 19, 2004.

  1. Ghazali

    Ghazali New Member

    salam Muslimeen

    kahan ke dhool baja rahe hain aap Pure muslim, ye Quran ko samajho aur parho magar ye Arabic Sekho aur Tarjuma khud karo

    ye tarjuma karo ki waja se jo nit nai firqe ban rahe hain, aap jese laugon ne Quran ko ek mamooli kitaab samajh rakha hai kia? ke bas arabic sekho aur dhara dhar tarjuma karna shuru kardo?

    quran ko yaad karne ke liye asaan kia gya hai, isey naseehat ke liye bheja gya hai, hidayet ka rasta dikhata hai

    ye nahi kaha ke jiska dil chahe tarjuma karna shuru karde, aur arabi ek taraf daal kar URDU Quran shuru ho jaey

    kia Urdu tarjuma (kisi sahi mufassir) ka khatam hogya hai? jo aap poora quran pure URDU main karne ki batain kar rahe ho?

    ye konsi nai sazish hai, aapne parhna hai URDU main ban wa lain aur parhey

    quran ki asal arabic zubaan hai, baqi translations ke saath bhi mil jate hain jo chahain parhain, magar sirf URDU book ki shakal main laana hai,

    ye ek nya fitna shuru karne ki soch se parhaiz karain.....

    quran naseehat, aur samajhne ko asaan hai na ke, apne tyeen us se saare masaail nikal lene ka naam

    deen ka elm to kisi ko kuch hota nahi, wo bhala quran se kia masaail nikalain ge ek dosre ko kafir/mushrik kar dein ge jo ke ho raha hai
     
  2. test

    test New Member

    Please see the point

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  3. Khanjee_2004

    Khanjee_2004 New Member

    Ghazali app ki yah bath sahi hai ka yah aik naya fitna hai.
     
  4. Qasim Abbas

    Qasim Abbas New Member

    Salam to all,

    Are Allah ke bandoh, tum duniyawi taa'alim leni hoti hey to Mathematics, Algebra, Engennering, Medicine, Accountancy, Pharmacy, Politics aur yahaan tak ke French, Persian aur German zabaan bhi samajh kar sikhte ho aur parhte ho. Raha maa'mala Us Khaaliqe Kaaenaat ka, jisne tum sab logon ko paida kiya. Us ki Muaqaddas Kitaab ka maa'amla aata hey, to kehte ho: "Ye to Arbi zabaan mein hey. Arbi zabaan sikhna to Moulviyon ka kaam hey." Kya kaha jaaye aise na shukron ko?

    Kya Allah ki khaatir Arbi zabaan nahin sikh sakte? Kya Allah Quran duniya ki 5,000 zabaanon mein naazil karta, taake har koi use apni zabaan mein parh sake? Allah ne jis azeem hasti par Quran naazil kiya is ki zabaan Arbi thi. To tum bhi us azeem hasti ki zabaan sikho, jis taraah mein ne sikhi hey. That is all.
     
  5. test

    test New Member

    Reply

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  6. test

    test New Member

    I really enjoyed this forum. I respect the thoughts of all of you. But looks that my thoughts are totally different and may not fit hear. So Good Luck and bye forever to all of you……………test
     
  7. Pure Muslim

    Pure Muslim New Member

    yarr test itni jaldi kaya masla ban gaya jo yuun forum jhoor rahay hu. sirf app key tahreer logically correct huti thee. baqi log zayada ter whohee likh rahay thay jo in co taleem mili ha. iss main in ka coi qasoor nahin. humaray logun co ager farashtay bhee aa ker sumjahin tu yeah in per bhee fitna ka ilzam laga dain gaay. ager in kay khayalat itnay ajahy hutay tu aj yun 1 doosray kay galay na kat rahay hutay. mera yaqeen ha kay sachi baat asar kar ka rahti ha. yeah log bhee kabhi na kabhi jaab apnay garaban main jahnk ker daykhain gay tu in co app kay dalayl zarur soochnay per majboor kerain gaay.
     
  8. Qasim Abbas

    Qasim Abbas New Member

    Salam,

    Tum thor sa ghour karo to baat chutki mein samajh mein aa jaayegi?

    Pakistan mein kitne logon ki maadri zabaan English hey? 5%, ya 10% Is se zyaadah to nahin hogi.

    Phir ye 95% ya 90% log mein se kitne English zabaan (jise kabhi kuffar ki zabaan bhi kaha jaata tha) sikhte hein? JItne bhi ho. Magar jab ye log woh zabaan, jo apni maadri zabaan nahin hey, woh sikh lete hein, to phir Arbi zabaan sikhne mein kyun in ko kaante lagte hein? Kyun ye paractical nahin hey? Jab kuffaron ki zabaan sikh sakte hein to Allah ke Rasool (SAW) ki zabaan kyun nahin sikhte?

    Is baat ko aqal mein bitha do to samajh mein aa jaayega. Is taraah bhi samajh mein aayega, ke Pakistan ke log jaan'te huwe bhi ghalat kaam karte hein. Is tarah jaan'te huwe bhi Arbi sikhna nahin chaahte. Kyun? Jab Allah ka hukm ghalat kaamon waala hi nahin maan'te to phir Quran ko samajhne ka hukm kyun maanenge?

    Jaisi jis ki soch. Magar apni soch kisi par musallat na karen, please. Aap chaahe to Quran Japanese zabaan mein parhen, ye aap ka personal maa'amla hey. Dusron par musallat na karen.
     
  9. Pure Muslim

    Pure Muslim New Member

    Qasim, yahan per Arabic key makhalfat coi nahin ker raha aur na coi yeah kah raha ha kay Arabic maat sikhow. in fact uper 1 reply main likha ha kay sub say bahter tareqa arabic zaban seekh ker pher khud Quran co perna ha. ageeeeeeeeeeeeer yeah mumkan na hu tu pher sub say bahtar Quran co Urdu main perna ha.
     
  10. bulbul

    bulbul New Member

    I agree with 'test' and 'Pure Muslim'
     
  11. Pure Muslim

    Pure Muslim New Member

    bulbul, baat co sumjhanay ka shukereya. test kay dalyal per kar khushi huti the kay coi tu posative sooch rukhnay wala ha mager shid test nay andaza ker leya ka yahan sawal alu aur jawab gunday huta ha iss leay wo forum joohr ker chala gaya. os nain bajay keysee co yeah kahnay kay khud kaha kay meray khaylat mukhtalif hain iss leay ja raha hun. test bhai ager app yeah reply peroo tu main guzarish kerta hun ka app apnay khayalat ka azhar zarur keyaa kerain. ager 100 main say 1 co bhee sumajh aa jay tu sumajh lain kay yeah bhe naki ha. jo log test kay kahyalat say atfaq rukhtay hain wo bhee likha kerain ta kay com az com positive sooch rukhnay walun co yeah tu maloom hu kay kuch log sun bhe rahay hain sub 1 jasay nahin. meray iss reply say muraz yeah nahin kay baqi loog negative soochtay hain. sirf main yeah kahta hun kay coi bhe reply post kernay say pahlay yeah zarur sooch leay kerain kay kay reply to the point ha.
     
  12. Qasim Abbas

    Qasim Abbas New Member

    Salam,

    Baat to clear cut hey. Jise Urde mein "parhna" ho woh Urdu mein "parhe", aur jise Arbi mein "parhna" ho, woh Arbi mein parhe. Aur is ke baa'ad bhi, use Quran ka Urdu tarjuma parhna ho to woh zaroor parhe, jo is par Farz ki haisiyat rakhta hey. Baat apni apni marzi ki hey. Aqalmand ko ishaarah hi kaafi hota hey. That is all.
     
  13. Baazauq

    Baazauq New Member

    Pure_Muslim se mera sawal sirf itna hai ke...
    Log jo chaaheinge... kya humko wohi faisla kar dena chaahiye...?
    maslan log chaahte hain ke america ki tarah hamare haan bhi maadar-padar aazaadi ho... to kya hum Islami qanoon utha kar ek taraf rakh dein??
    (sirf logon ki khaahishaat par hum qaanoon banane lag jaayein... to phir QURAN/HADEES ki zaroorat hi kya hai ??)
     
  14. Pure Muslim

    Pure Muslim New Member

    Qasim key baat baja ha kay apni marzi ha jaysay perain. asal maqsad Quran co sumajhna ha. Baazauq bhai Arabic main Quran perna Islamic qanoon nahin ha. ajah insan ajhi batain lay layta ha aur buri batain jhoor dayta ha.
     
  15. Baazauq

    Baazauq New Member

    Arabic me quran "padhna" nahi balke...balke,
    Arabic me quran "samajhna" Islami qanoon nahi hai !!
    kyunke NAMAZ aur degar ibaadaat me to humko Arabic Quran hi padhne ka hukm hai, uska tarjuma nahi !!
    ummeed ke meri baat se ittefaaq kareinge.
    thanx.
     
  16. Pure Muslim

    Pure Muslim New Member

    Reply to Baazauq

    Brother Baazauq, jo baat app nain likhee ha iss ka zikkar Quran main keysee jaga nahin ha. ager app co Quran ya Namaz co Arabic main pernay kay baray aur Urdu main na pernay kay baray coi bhee aayt pata hu tu please iss co hawalay kay sath yahan post kerow ta kay humari maloomat main bhee azafah hu. ager yeah hawal na malay tu please 1 bar Quran co Urdu main zarur per layna ta kay pata hu kay Quran main in fact ha kaya.
     
  17. Qasim Abbas

    Qasim Abbas New Member

    Salam,

    Pure Muslim Sahab, aap ye Ayaten dekh len, Quran ko parhne ke baare mein:

    2:121, 17:78 aur 73:4.

    In Ayaton mein kahin bhi kisi zabaan (Arbi ke alaawaah) ka zikr nahin hey. Quran Arbi zabaan mein hi naazil huwa hey. Jab uper ki Ayaton mein kisi ajnabi zabaan (forieing language) ka zikr nahin hey, aur jis par ye naazil huwa hey, is ki zabaan bhi Arbi hey, to ise Arbi mein parhne ka hi hukm in Ayton se hey. Hum saaf saaf hey.

    Bilfarz, Allah ko ye farmaana hota ke jis ko chaahe woh apni apni zabaan mein parhe, to inA yton mein ye saaf saaf kaha hota.
     
  18. Truthlover

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  20. Pure Muslim

    Pure Muslim New Member

    Reply to Qasim and Truth lover

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